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Monday, 11 February 2019 05:45

Hiragana Keyaki change their name to Hinatazaka46

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Japanese idol group Hiragana Keyakizaka46 held a press conference today (11 February 2019) and announce they change their official name to Hinatazaka46, and they also change their logo which use new theme colour "Sky".

Reference: Hinatazaka46 official site

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  • Comment Link Yokai Monday, 11 February 2019 05:54 posted by Yokai

    So no longer related to keyakizaka?

  • Comment Link Anonymous Monday, 11 February 2019 07:50 posted by Anonymous

    No longer related anymore. They're separate website, SNS and member system also. On the other hand, it's truly disaster for our wallet.

  • Comment Link Jsprite Monday, 11 February 2019 08:03 posted by Jsprite


  • Comment Link Memorandom Monday, 11 February 2019 08:39 posted by Memorandom

    Yes. Really great news, and about time too - it'll be nice to see them come into their own and out of Keyaki's rather emo shadow. The light sky blue also really suits their more breezy, optimistic style/songs.

  • Comment Link Tuberose Monday, 11 February 2019 10:54 posted by Tuberose

    Still related in a sister group way haha

    This is the justice they deserve, they have a totally different images anyway. And the sky blue color suits them a lot more than Keyaki's green. If only Neru moved to this group it would be awesome.

    In the end, Aki-p is the real winner and will earn more money.

  • Comment Link alex Monday, 11 February 2019 12:04 posted by alex

    hmm the group members are better than kanji keyaki for variety and talk... but i dont like this new name

  • Comment Link Riccard Monday, 11 February 2019 17:01 posted by Riccard

    I think with this devt, the sales of Keyaki will fall in the next single. They average 1 million per single. If I have to venture a guess, maybe it will fall to around 800,000 copies per single. On the other hand, I predict Hinatazaka sales to be around 400,000 to 500,000 copies for their debut single. I don't see them selling as low as NMB/HKT/NGT/STU.

  • Comment Link Yoonyul Monday, 11 February 2019 18:30 posted by Yoonyul

    Well thats great news. They deserve to be on their own, long overdue IMO. Hoping they have a better senbatsu system than hiratezaka46.

  • Comment Link ridher Monday, 11 February 2019 19:46 posted by ridher

    the next is Nogizaka46 Under Merbers :v

  • Comment Link edu Monday, 11 February 2019 22:13 posted by edu

    yeah, kanji is bad for neru, worst with hirate always center...
    Neru and Hinano would be perfect...

  • Comment Link Tuberose Tuesday, 12 February 2019 03:44 posted by Tuberose

    @alex Hinatazaka is the perfect name for them! It's sounds similar to Hiragana and the meaning is beautiful

    @Riccard based on their album sales I think around 300k copies at most (near 400k), but yeah they would most likely be the highest selling group for debut. Keyaki will still sell above 750K at least (I hope, it's painful to see the sales drop even if they're not my ultimate group)

    @Yoonyul: I think the centers would be Mirei and Memi (and Nao, Bemiho, Kyonko, Katoshi as Fukujin?)

  • Comment Link concerned citizen Tuesday, 12 February 2019 04:00 posted by concerned citizen

    There are so many center materials in Hinatazaka (Miipan, Ponchan, Nao, Kumi, etc). I hope the management realizes this so they can avoid another scenario like Keyaki where Techi is always the center.

  • Comment Link Josh Tuesday, 12 February 2019 04:06 posted by Josh

    @ridher I was thinking along almost similar line. What I'd like to see is Nogi 4th gen separated into another group. There are so many promising members in that batch. Nogi is already getting crowded and the 2nd gen members are still underrepresented in senbatsu. I think it's enough for Nogi to have up to 3rd gen for now. When many 1st gen members graduate, then they can add another gen members. For now, I hope the 4th gen members get to debut in another separate group. I was thinking a name like Sakurazaka46 will fit (FYI, that's the name of a real street in Tokyo).

  • Comment Link Riccard Tuesday, 12 February 2019 07:44 posted by Riccard

    @Tuberose Didn't Keyaki debut with 400K+? I think Hinatazaka can top that figure based on their album sales. I'm thinking closer to 450K to 500K copies.

  • Comment Link lol Tuesday, 12 February 2019 10:57 posted by lol

    Keyaki sale will be fine I guess. They have promising 2nd gen and most likely will increase the hs slots to 30. 700/800k for less than 30 members is good. But ofc its hard from now on to get 1m.

  • Comment Link experiencedcyclist Tuesday, 12 February 2019 22:17 posted by experiencedcyclist

    glad this did this i always thought it was weird that they weren't following the nogi model of being one group with under members

  • Comment Link Tuberose Wednesday, 13 February 2019 03:25 posted by Tuberose

    @Riccard lol no. IZ*ONE which currently hold the title of Aki-p best selling debut group sold 300K so how come Keyaki sold 400K? If I remember correctly it's 200K first week sales.

  • Comment Link Novakayne Wednesday, 13 February 2019 04:57 posted by Novakayne

    This probably the best move possible. The hiragana members were much stronger than management could have possibly anticipated and it was such a waste to keep them on the bench. It was probably becoming a dilemma in terms of single senbatsu selection, the Kanji's are all strong have become such a cohesive unit that you dont want to leave any of them out but then you have a crap ton of Hiragana members who also deserve to be in a senbatsu and not wasted to B-sides and no promotional media appearances. The Zaka46 empire with this move has probably surpassed 48G completely in terms of talent and entertainment value if they haven't already

  • Comment Link Riccard Wednesday, 13 February 2019 05:55 posted by Riccard

    @Tuberose I was talking about the total sales, not just the first week sales. Keyaki's Silent Majority sold almost 450K in Oricon. That's the number to beat. Hinatazaka might very well beat that, maybe 500K total sales.

    And speaking of Oricon, IZONE doesn't hold the title of Aki-p's best debut week. Unlike Billboard Japan where IZONE sold more than 300K, they only sold 221K in Oricon. That is less than HKT's Suki Suki Skip debut first week sales of 250K in Oricon. But yes, if Billboard is the basis, then IZONE holds the title. It's just that Oricon only counts pure Japanese sales, while Billboard includes international sales in their count. I believe Billboard Japan chart didn't exist when HKT made their debut.

  • Comment Link Tuberose Thursday, 14 February 2019 03:01 posted by Tuberose

    @Riccard total sales can't be the basis then, bc there's no time limit.

    Currently Oricon don't count more than >20 copies sales so if you bought 25 it's still 20 for them. So the difference usually up to 100k copies between Oricon and Billboard. But back then they counted it, if any the difference would be around 10k only.

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